While I was at the NRA Convention, I was asked why many military units were trading in their 9mm MP5SDs and going to 300 Blackout. While I can neither confirm or deny what different units are doing or why they are doing it, I can share some of my personal thoughts.
I like the 300BLK, compared to the 5.56mm round. It hits harder and is still capable of great performance when subsonic and suppressed. However, currently, as a battle round it is not as easily found as 5.56mm. Picture being in a gunfight, where you are the only guy there running a 300BLK. Everyone else is running 5.56mm. Now, you start running out of ammo, they can all share, but not you. That’s why some SF guys would actually run AKs when out patrolling with their indigenous counterparts. They then had one common round for everyone. So, lack of availability is an issue. Also, the 5.56mm is much more accurate at range.
All that aside, the 300 BLK is a great combat round, like the 7.62×39 AK round. So, I hope more units do adopt it, as it will then be pushed into greater production. Till then, I’ll have fun handloading crazy subsonic loads and I’ll crush hogs with supersonic Controlled Chaos.
So, I lean towards the 300BLK, but back to our viewer’s question… Again, just our opinion (not SOCOM’s) but we just happened to have filmed this video a couple of weeks before the NRA Convention. So, we bumped it up the Video Calendar a few weeks for our asking viewer. It shows the 300BLK with sexy Controlled Chaos ammo against standard 9mm ball. Not a “fair” test, right? Well, maybe not; but we were running the MP5SDs with 9mm ball and they are thinking about replacing the MP5SDs with a new gun AND new ammo. No one said combat was fair.
Wait! I mentioned the 300BLK might replace the MP5SD, but we filmed the video with a Sig Sauer MPX? Yep. We were gonna film it with the MP-5 (T1G has several full-auto versions), but Pete Jones (Alan’s Arsenal) showed up with his sexy new MPX. Not being one to pass up shooting a new gun, I decided to use it in the video. The MPX is an awesome gun. If 9mm is your “round of choice,” and you’re trying to keep to just one caliber throughout your arsenal; then the Suppressed MPX is an excellent choice. It ran great the way Pete had it set up. All his guns run reliably, which is what really matters. For plinking, this gun was a gem and the 9mm ball is cheap.
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A .300 Blackout is more powerful than a 9mm? Shocking.
Should have done subs in both
Dumb video .. Expanding bullet to a ball round.
What a dumb pointless video.
Am I wrong? I Was in the Air Force in the 70s, I thought we could only use fmj ammo. no expanding, or hallow point rounds. Has all that changed?
This is for shit! This is not a comparison of guns. This is bullet comparison. Reverse the bullet type and 9mm wins. Dumb video. Get some training on firearms and ammunition.
This is not a good test! The best 300 Blk ammo vs. the worst 9mm? Really? Try it with the +p 68gr. Underwood vs. your 300blk
The military uses 124gr not 115gr 9mm.
9mm for the win
If Devon Larratt was Tactical.
okay question. .300 vs 9mm both subs and both same grain. is there a diffreance other then the price per round ?
Did you even say what ammo brand you used in the 9mm? I expect fmj to go through…
Saying you pick your ammo based on the difficulty to save the prrson shot by it can be argued as premeditated by a good prosecutor. Im only trying to stop the threat if im in fear of my life
I’d rather have seen a 220gr versus a 110gr. It would have been more fair of a comparison.
Another 300 blackout fan girl
You don't have to rant. You have the facts & results. Proof positive. Thank you.
Ok im getting a 300blk
A subsonic 300 BO vs a 147 gr 9mm Gold Dot would have been a more meaningful test.
Cool test but until you, compare similar ammo types not a fair test. Also what was the decibel comparison? 9mm was standard ball or looked like range rounds. The 300black out was not the same. Change either ammo to match or explain your choice of ammo types. There are expanding round, mixed metal, full jacketed, ball rounds need to test similar rounds.
It sounded like you were trying to say that you used the standard load out for special forces using the weapons. Where is your data on that?
I like mix metal and star hollow points in my personal carry. RBCD makes nice mix metal rounds that blossom nicely in 9mm. Rerun the test with similar ammo types and we will get real world results would like to know decibel levels. And if rounds were subsonic.
The more you provide the more accurate the internet will think the results are.
@TacticalRifleman what stock/recoil system is on that .300blk rifle?
Fmj vs an expanding hollowpoint isn't a very good comparison, a defensive 9mm round would've tore up the block similarly.🤦♂️
Let me compare dingleberries to snoozeberries…. stupidest comparisons 😂
Hey @tacticalrifleman (or anyone) who makes the collapsible stock on that .300blk pistol?
Bravo.perfect
The US military uses Federal 124gr +P FMJ 9mm NATO. They (the DoD) also use 190-grain Subsonic Expanding Tactical Application Police 300 BLK for CQB-focused small arms.
So we’re making a pitch for 300BLK by comparing to 9mm BALL? Not even 9mm HP? Oh, and I thought hollow point was illegal in war, FMJ was mandated, no? New ROE now? You can carry WAY more 9mm HP than 300BLK
Thanks Brother for a great video. I would be happy to have either of these fine bullet launchers! Ultra-Mega-MAGA
So the military is allowed to use expanding 300 bo but they aren't allowed to use expanding 9mm? Lol
Retarded comparison
Ok now shoot that expanding round at level 3 armor 🤨🤨🤨 I’ll stick with my FMJ and hollows!
I love this channel
I think we all can agree that this test isn’t even close to being a fair representation of damage when you’ve got a hollow point vs FMJ
Super or sub… any bullet in either cartridge…when you or your families life is on the line…….
I'll opt for the 300 BLK. Nuff said. Cool vid. I subscribed 👍😊
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Wow I believe that’s the most damage I have ever seen especially from any kind of ammo it punches way above it’s weight dude one shot there dead
Why didn't you use a 9 mm hollow point when comparing it to the 300 blackout hollow point?
He's talking home defense, yet compares 9mm ball ammo. Only an idiot would use ball ammo for home defense. He should have tested a personal defense round. I appreciate the effort, but this is a worthless test.
Good video. Thank you. I get the point you were going for. The biggest concern with 5.56 / 7.62 and 300 black out is over penetration. The point of this video is to show 300 blackout can do the majority of its damage to the initial perpetrator with minimal over penetration.